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Thornthwaite, Above Derwent
Thornthwaite
civil parish:-   Above Derwent (formerly Cumberland)
county:-   Cumbria
locality type:-   locality
locality type:-   buildings
coordinates:-   NY22412544 (etc) 
1Km square:-   NY2225
10Km square:-   NY22

evidence:-   old map:- OS County Series (Cmd 55 16) 
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Maps, County Series maps of Great Britain, scales 6 and 25 inches to 1 mile, published by the Ordnance Survey, Southampton, Hampshire, from about 1863 to 1948.

evidence:-   old map:- Saxton 1579
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Westmorlandiae et Cumberlandiae Comitatus ie Westmorland and Cumberland, scale about 5 miles to 1 inch, by Christopher Saxton, London, engraved by Augustinus Ryther, 1576, published 1579-1645.
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Building, symbol for a hamlet, which may or may not have a nucleus.  "Thornthwate"
item:-  private collection : 2
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evidence:-   old map:- Mercator 1595 (edn?) 
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Northumbria, Cumberlandia, et Dunelmensis Episcopatus, ie Northumberland, Cumberland and Durham etc, scale about 6.5 miles to 1 inch, by Gerard Mercator, Duisberg, Germany, about 1595.
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"Thornthwate"
circle 
item:-  JandMN : 169
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evidence:-   old map:- Speed 1611 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumberland and the Ancient Citie Carlile Described, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by John Speed, 1610, published by J Sudbury and George Humble, Popes Head Alley, London, 1611-12.
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"Thornthwate"
circle, tower 
item:-  private collection : 16
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evidence:-   old map:- Jansson 1646
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumbria and Westmoria, ie Cumberland and Westmorland, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, by John Jansson, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1646.
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"Thornthwate"
Buildings and tower. 
item:-  JandMN : 88
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evidence:-   old map:- Morden 1695 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, 1695, published by Abel Swale, the Unicorn, St Paul's Churchyard, Awnsham, and John Churchill, the Black Swan, Paternoster Row, London, 1695-1715.
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"Thornthwate"
Circle. 
item:-  JandMN : 90
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evidence:-   old map:- Bowen and Kitchin 1760
placename:-  Thornthwate
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, A New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland Divided into their Respective Wards, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin et al, published by T Bowles, Robert Sayer, and John Bowles, London, 1760.
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"Thornthwate"
circle, tower 
item:-  Armitt Library : 2008.14.10
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evidence:-   old map:- Donald 1774 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, 3x2 sheets, The County of Cumberland, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by Thomas Donald, engraved and published by Joseph Hodskinson, 29 Arundel Street, Strand, London, 1774.
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"Thornthwaite"
blocks, and usually a church, labelled in upright lowercase; a village 
item:-  Carlisle Library : Map 2
Image © Carlisle Library

evidence:-   probably old map:- Crosthwaite 1783-94 (Bas) 
placename:-  Fold
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, An Accurate Map of Broadwater or Bassenthwaite Lake, scale about 3 inches to 1 mile, by Peter Crosthwaite, Keswick, Cumberland, 1783, version published 1800.
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"FOLD"
Marked by a circle, buildings and tower symbol. 
item:-  Armitt Library : 1959.191.4
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evidence:-   old map:- West 1784 map
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, A Map of the Lakes in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, engraved by Paas, 53 Holborn, London, about 1784.
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item:-  Armitt Library : A1221.1
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evidence:-   old text:- Clarke 1787
placename:-  Thornthwaite
item:-  fruit
source data:-   Guide book, A Survey of the Lakes of Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire, written and published by James Clarke, Penrith, Cumberland, and in London etc, 1787; published 1787-93.
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Page 91:-  "... This place [Braithwaite] and Thornthwaite are remarkable for producing the best fruit in Cumberland. ..."
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Page 92:-  "..."
"Thornthwaite is a long rambling village, as may be seen in the plan; the soil near the houses is very rich, but towards Derwent the ground is wet and boggy. All along Thornthwaite there are very good orchards, in which fruit-trees thrive exceeding well, and bear plentifully. Here is a small chapel under Crossthwaite, and the lands are mostly customary under the Earl of Egremont, as part of his honour of Cockermouth Castle."

evidence:-   old map:- Otley 1818
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, The District of the Lakes, Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Jonathan Otley, 1818, engraved by J and G Menzies, Edinburgh, Scotland, published by Jonathan Otley, Keswick, Cumberland, et al, 1833.
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item:-  JandMN : 48.1
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evidence:-   probably descriptive text:- Otley 1823 (5th edn 1834) 
item:-  geology
source data:-   Guide book, A Concise Description of the English Lakes, the mountains in their vicinity, and the roads by which they may be visited, with remarks on the mineralogy and geology of the district, by Jonathan Otley, published by the author, Keswick, Cumberland now Cumbria, by J Richardson, London, and by Arthur Foster, Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, 1823; published 1823-49, latterly as the Descriptive Guide to the English Lakes.
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Page 152:-  "The greatest bulk of these mountain rocks have been commonly included under the general appellation of slate; although many of them shew no disposition to the slaty cleavage. They may be classed in three principal divisions."
"Of these divisions, the FIRST or lowest in the series, forms ... the mountains of Thornthwaite and Newlands; ..."
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Page 154:-  "... Veins of lead ore occur in several places; and have been worked between Skiddaw and Saddleback, in Thornthwaite, Newlands, and Buttermere; but one in the parish of Loweswater, and one below the level of Derwent Lake, are the most productive at present in this district."

evidence:-   old map:- Ford 1839 map
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Map of the Lake District of Cumberland, Westmoreland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, and by R Groombridge, 5 Paternoster Row, London, 3rd edn 1843.
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"Thornthwaite"
item:-  JandMN : 100.1
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evidence:-   old map:- Garnett 1850s-60s H
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Map of the English Lakes, in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s.
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"Thornthwaite"
blocks, settlement 
item:-  JandMN : 82.1
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 Martineau Directory 1855

evidence:-   old map:- Post Office 1850s-1900s
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Post road maps, General Post Office Circulation Map for England and Wales, for the General Post Office, London, 1850s-1900s.
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"Thornthwaite"
map date 1909 

evidence:-   old map:- Post Office 1850s-1900s
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Post road maps, General Post Office Circulation Map for England and Wales, for the General Post Office, London, 1850s-1900s.
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"Thornthwaite"
map date 1892 

evidence:-   old map:- Post Office 1850s-1900s
placename:-  Thornthwaite
source data:-   Post road maps, General Post Office Circulation Map for England and Wales, for the General Post Office, London, 1850s-1900s.
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"Thornthwaite"
map date 1890 

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images courtesy of the British Postal Museum and Hampshire CC Museums

places:-  
NY22372521 Beckside (Above Derwent)
NY27724152 Cleamire (Westward)
NY22392545 drain, Thornthwaite (Above Derwent)
NY22312590 Hollins (Above Derwent)
NY22412574 Jenkin Hill Farm (Above Derwent)
NY22462571 Jenkin Hill (Above Derwent)
NY22172510 Ladstock Wood (Above Derwent)
NY22292587 milestone, Above Derwent (3) (Above Derwent)
NY51461606 Thornthwaite Mill (Bampton) suggested
NY22082513 mill, Thornthwaite (Above Derwent)
NY22172519 mill, Thornthwaite (2) (Above Derwent)
NY22282562 Rachel Wood Mine (Above Derwent)
NY22352573 Spout House (Above Derwent) gone?
NY22642542 St Mary's Church (Above Derwent) L
NY27074187 Thornthwaite Close (Boltons)
NY27174184 Thornthwaite Hall (Boltons)
NY27524123 Thornthwaite Head (Boltons) gone
NY22332529 Thwaitehill (Above Derwent)
NY22352561 Walkergtae (Above Derwent)
NY22482529 Chapelbeck Bridge (Above Derwent)
NY22342577 Thornthwaite Mine (Above Derwent)
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