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Red Tarn, Patterdale
runs into:-    Red Tarn Beck

Red Tarn
locality:-   Helvellyn
civil parish:-   Patterdale (formerly Westmorland)
county:-   Cumbria
locality type:-   tarn
coordinates:-   NY34811525 (etc) 
1Km square:-   NY3415
10Km square:-   NY31
altitude:-   2356 feet
altitude:-   718m


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BRB66.jpg (taken 9.7.2009)  
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CET41.jpg (taken 14.3.2016)  

evidence:-   old map:- OS County Series (Wmd 12 13) 
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Maps, County Series maps of Great Britain, scales 6 and 25 inches to 1 mile, published by the Ordnance Survey, Southampton, Hampshire, from about 1863 to 1948.

evidence:-   old map:- Donald 1774 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, 3x2 sheets, The County of Cumberland, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by Thomas Donald, engraved and published by Joseph Hodskinson, 29 Arundel Street, Strand, London, 1774.
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lake N of Helvellyn 
item:-  Carlisle Library : Map 2
Image © Carlisle Library

evidence:-   old text:- Wordsworth 1810
item:-  eagleangler
source data:-   Guide book, A Description of the Scenery of the Lakes, later A Guide through the District of The Lakes, by William Wordsworth, 1810-35.
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page xx  "... a silent Tarn in the recesses of Helvellyn. This desolate spot was formerly haunted by eagles, that built in the precipice which forms its western barrier. These birds used to wheel and hover round the head of the solitary angler. ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Otley 1818
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, The District of the Lakes, Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Jonathan Otley, 1818, engraved by J and G Menzies, Edinburgh, Scotland, published by Jonathan Otley, Keswick, Cumberland, et al, 1833.
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item:-  JandMN : 48.1
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evidence:-   descriptive text:- Otley 1823 (5th edn 1834) 
source data:-   Guide book, A Concise Description of the English Lakes, the mountains in their vicinity, and the roads by which they may be visited, with remarks on the mineralogy and geology of the district, by Jonathan Otley, published by the author, Keswick, Cumberland now Cumbria, by J Richardson, London, and by Arthur Foster, Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, 1823; published 1823-49, latterly as the Descriptive Guide to the English Lakes.
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Page 34:-  "... Red Tarn, also of considerable extent, containing about twenty acres, is upon the"
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Page 35:-  "highest level of any of the mountain tarns; being upwards of two thousand three hundred feet above the level of the sea, and about seven hundred feet below the summit of Helvellyn; from whence into it you might almost cast a stone. ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Garnett 1850s-60s H
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Map of the English Lakes, in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s.
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"Red Tarn"
outline with shore form lines, lake or tarn 
item:-  JandMN : 82.1
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evidence:-   old text:- Martineau 1855
item:-  depth, Red Tarn
source data:-   Guide book, A Complete Guide to the English Lakes, by Harriet Martineau, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, and by Whittaker and Co, London, 1855; published 1855-76.
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Page 180:-  "A TABLE OF THE LENGTH, BREADTH, AND DEPTH OF THE LAKES."
"No. : Names of Lakes. : Counties : Length in Miles. : Extreme breadth in Miles : Extreme depth in Feet : Height above the Sea"
"6 : Red Tarn, Helvellyn : Westmorland : - : - : - : 2400"

evidence:-   old photograph:- Bell 1880s-1940s
source data:-   Photograph, black and white, Red Tarn, Helvellyn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Herbert Bell, photographer, Ambleside, Westmorland, 1890s.
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internegative at lower right:-  "H. Bell"
item:-  Armitt Library : ALPS260
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evidence:-   old photograph:- Bell 1880s-1940s
item:-  costume
source data:-   Photograph, black and white, Red Tarn, Helvellyn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Herbert Bell, photographer, Ambleside, Westmorland, 1890s.
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internegative at lower right:-  "H. Bell"
item:-  Armitt Library : ALPS261
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evidence:-   old print:- Philip/Wilson 1890s
source data:-   Print, engraving, Striding Edge and Red Tarn, Helvellyn, published by George Philip and Son, London, Philip, Son and Nephew, Liverpool, Lancashire, and Titus Wilson, Kendal, Westmorland, about 1895.
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"STRIDING EDGE AND RED TARN, HELVELLYN."
item:-  JandMN : 58.26
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evidence:-   old print:- Brabant 1902
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Print, uncoloured lithograph, Striding Edge and Red Tarn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Edmund H New, published by Methuen and Co, 36 Essex Street, Strand, London, 1902.
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Tipped in opposite p.190 of The English Lakes, by F G Brabant. 
printed at bottom left:-  "E / H / N"
printed at bottom:-  "STRIDING EDGE AND RED TARN"
item:-  JandMN : 502.15
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evidence:-   text:- Mason 1907 (edn 1930) 
source data:-   Text book, The Ambleside Geography Books bk.III, The Counties of England, by Charlotte M Mason, published by Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner and Co, Broadway House, 68-74 Carter Lane, and the Parents' Educational Union Office, 26 Victoria Street, London, edn 1930.
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Page 20:-  "..."
"The best way to see the mountain [Helvellyn] in its grandeur is to follow the track that leads up by the Red Tarn. A tarn is a small mere, or lake, high up among the mountains. This Red Tarn lies in a dip about 600 feet from the summit. It is shut in between two sloping walls of rock, the Striding Edge, and the Swirral Edge, ..."

evidence:-   old photograph:- Marr 1916
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Photograph, halftone print, Red Tarn, Helvellyn, Cumberland, 1916.
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item:-  JandMN : 173.32
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evidence:-   old print:- Robertson 1911
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Print, lithograph? Red Tarn, Helvellyn, from a watercolour by Arthur Tucker, published by Chatto and Windus, London, 1911.
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Tipped in opposite p.226 of Wordsworthshire by Eric Robertson. 
Striding Edge in the foreground. 
printed at bottom:-  "RED TARN, HELVELLYN"
signed at painting lower left:-  "Arthur Tucker"
item:-  JandMN : 197.40
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evidence:-   old photograph:- Bogg 1898
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Photograph, halftone print, Red Tarn, Helvellyn, St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn, Cumbria, by W G Foster, published by Edmund Bogg, 3 Woodhouse Lane, and James Miles, Guildford Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, 1898.
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Included on p.172 of Lakeland and Ribblesdale, by Edmund Bogg. 
item:-  JandMN : 231.60
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evidence:-   outline view:- Jenkinson 1875
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Print, lithograph, outline view, Panoramic Sketches from Helvellyn, Westmorland, by Edwin A Pettitt, London, published by Edward Stanford, 55 Charing Cross, London, 1875.
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"... Red Tarn ..."
item:-  JandMN : 28.5
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evidence:-   old print:- Fielding 1822 (plate 23) 
placename:-  Red Tarn
source data:-   Print, uncoloured engraving, Red Tarn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Theodore H A Fielding, published by Thomas McLean, 26 Haymarket, London, et al, 1822.
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Plate 23 in the set of prints, Cumberland, Westmoreland, and Lancashire Illustrated. 
printed at bottom, left, centre:-  "T. Fielding delt. / RED TARN."
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2008.107.123
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BUU94.jpg  Striding Edge behind.
(taken 20.6.2011)  
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BUU95.jpg  Striding Edge behind.
(taken 20.6.2011)  
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BUU96.jpg  Helvellyn behind.
(taken 20.6.2011)  
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CET42.jpg (taken 14.3.2016)  
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CET44.jpg  The whole cirque: Bleaberry Crag, Helvellyn, Catsty Cam.
(taken 14.3.2016)  

MN photo:-  
Artificial outlet.

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BUU97.jpg (taken 20.6.2011)  
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notes:-  
They say there are brown trout and skelly in thus tarn; and Willilam Wordsworth fished here.

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